Ep. 180: The Good Mess with Debbie Morris & Elaine Fisher

This week on Real Talk with Rachael, I’m speaking with mother and daughter, Debbie Morris and Elaine Fisher. Debbie Morris is an author and pastor in Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas, who delights in helping women understand who they are in God so they can discover their destinies and experience victory in life. Elaine Fisher is an author, speaker, and pastor in Houston, Texas, and is passionate about sharing authentic revelation from the lessons she is learning as God writes her story of redemption and freedom.

Key Points from Our Conversation:

Debbie and Elaine wrote The Good Mess to give an honest account of God’s goodness amid a messy life. Elaine experienced her own “prodigal son” story by confessing her struggles and sins to God and a trusted community that helped her find freedom.
If you’ve walked away from God, He is still waiting to welcome you home. Not just that, He will meet you where you are and walk with you every step. If you allow Him, God will enable you to dig into your mess and find encouragement.
Debbie and Elaine’s relationship changed when Elaine was able to authentically treat the friendship with respect and honor and when Debbie was able to move from the role of instructor to counselor.
When we feel God is calling us to something, we often have expectations of what that should look like. But God honors those who trust Him, regardless of the outcome.
If you are a wife who is experiencing a messy marriage, better days are coming. Finding ways to bond is difficult and not all days will be good. Remember to guard your words and influences on the hard days and sow seeds of joy and life into your marriage.
In the moments when things feel abnormal (“irregular heartbeats”) you can choose to let things go or evaluate further what is happening. Do you notice these moments? And if you do, do you care enough to love the other person back to health?
God is good and no matter what mess you’re in, He can and wants to redeem it. He has a purpose and plan for the mess if you’ll allow Him to use it.
When you encounter God, your situation may not change but your perspective will. He will give you the encouragement you need to thrive.